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	<title>Comments on: Harlan Ellison rants about writer&#8217;s pay and the amateurs who screw things up for the pros</title>
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	<description>Dean Rieck on Copywriting &#38; Direct Marketing</description>
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		<title>By: Roberta Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberta Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at http://www.no-spec.com/ ... You want me to write for free? Ask me first. You want to see how well I write, I&#039;ll give you a sample ... for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.no-spec.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.no-spec.com/</a> &#8230; You want me to write for free? Ask me first. You want to see how well I write, I&#8217;ll give you a sample &#8230; for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what an interview!

While I wouldn&#039;t put it so harshly myself, I agree with everything he said. Spec work, internships, and everything else that is for free is BS.

Sure, some of it may lead to an opportunity down the road...but let&#039;s face the facts - the main purpose for this kind of arrangement is to take advantage of the writer/worker that is hoping for an opportunity down the road.

I will never work for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what an interview!</p>
<p>While I wouldn&#8217;t put it so harshly myself, I agree with everything he said. Spec work, internships, and everything else that is for free is BS.</p>
<p>Sure, some of it may lead to an opportunity down the road&#8230;but let&#8217;s face the facts &#8211; the main purpose for this kind of arrangement is to take advantage of the writer/worker that is hoping for an opportunity down the road.</p>
<p>I will never work for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Rieck</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Rieck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of new copywriters getting into the business today because of a zillion people selling information on becoming a copywriter, much of it in the &quot;get rich quick&quot; category. 

There is also a disturbing trend for doing &quot;spec work,&quot; which I think is a bane on the profession. Copywriters and designers in the general ad industry have always done spec work, because freelancers there are generally out of work and looking for a job. But direct marketing has been largely free of this practice until recently because freelancers are often the ones doing the very best work available to marketers and it is worth paying for. 

I have tried spec work in the past, and it never led to regular paying work or a good client relationship. I never work for free today. EVER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of new copywriters getting into the business today because of a zillion people selling information on becoming a copywriter, much of it in the &#8220;get rich quick&#8221; category. </p>
<p>There is also a disturbing trend for doing &#8220;spec work,&#8221; which I think is a bane on the profession. Copywriters and designers in the general ad industry have always done spec work, because freelancers there are generally out of work and looking for a job. But direct marketing has been largely free of this practice until recently because freelancers are often the ones doing the very best work available to marketers and it is worth paying for. </p>
<p>I have tried spec work in the past, and it never led to regular paying work or a good client relationship. I never work for free today. EVER.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Grigg</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Grigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. Amateurs undercut the professional in all trades, not just copywriting.

That is why qualifying our clients is so critical. Just because a company or individual needs our professional services does not automatically make them a good prospect. They must respect what we do with an appropriate payment.

So amateurs represent only one side of the coin. Clients also must share in the blame of wanting and expecting services for free only to end up with poor results.

The old maxim still rings true. You will get what you pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Amateurs undercut the professional in all trades, not just copywriting.</p>
<p>That is why qualifying our clients is so critical. Just because a company or individual needs our professional services does not automatically make them a good prospect. They must respect what we do with an appropriate payment.</p>
<p>So amateurs represent only one side of the coin. Clients also must share in the blame of wanting and expecting services for free only to end up with poor results.</p>
<p>The old maxim still rings true. You will get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reeves</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. I liked the video so much I had to put it up on my site too. With full credit here.

I love it when Harlan says, &quot;How dare you call me and want me to work for nothing?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. I liked the video so much I had to put it up on my site too. With full credit here.</p>
<p>I love it when Harlan says, &#8220;How dare you call me and want me to work for nothing?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Janice C Cartier</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice C Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Go Harlan , go Harlan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The beauty of truth.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ahhh, nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning....oops it&#039;s lunchtime...still works.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for his one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All best, Jan&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Harlan , go Harlan.</p>
<p>The beauty of truth.  </p>
<p>Ahhh, nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning&#8230;.oops it&#8217;s lunchtime&#8230;still works.</p>
<p>Thanks for his one.</p>
<p>All best, Jan</p>
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		<title>By: Shama Hyder</title>
		<link>http://www.directcreative.com/blog/harlan-ellison-says-writers-should-always-get-paid/comment-page-1#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Shama Hyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is so in the entertainment industry. = ) 

I am not sure I agree, but I do believe everyone should be compensated for the value they provide. Charity for Non-profits is one thing, but Warner Brothers-they better pay! = )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is so in the entertainment industry. = ) </p>
<p>I am not sure I agree, but I do believe everyone should be compensated for the value they provide. Charity for Non-profits is one thing, but Warner Brothers-they better pay! = )</p>
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